Re: [-empyre-] Re: Networked Performance (Frank Shifreen)

["Frank Shifreen" <fshifreen@mindspring.com>]

Thanks John
I suppose this  art  was trying to carry  and evoke the mystery and power of
science,
without intellectual rigor and compassion.
Frank Shifreen
www.thedigitalmuseum.org
www.drinkink.org
http://retiform.ath.cx/index.php


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From: "Stasisfield.com" <john@stasisfield.com>
To: <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 10:54 PM
Subject: [-empyre-] Re: Networked Performance (Frank Shifreen)


Frank,

You are not alone in your reaction to this piece. Art of this kind
strikes me as crude sensationalism. I would be interested in hearing
a truly compelling argument in favor of such a practice.


>>

john kannenberg

[ http://www.stasisfield.com ]

[ http://www.whistlingpariah.com ]




>Please warn us about the inclusion of  "art" which causes harm to animals.
I
>used to work at the NYU Brain Lab
>and have seen it all, but I think art should be metaphorical, and that is
>why I am an artist. In the lab, an animal killed was called a "sacrifice",
>and it had all the aura of an ancient priesthood and ritual murder. Most of
>the animals killed in the lab seemed more to satisfy  the exigencies of a
>grant  than to learn more about the brain. When artists do similar
>experiments as art it seems cruel and pointless.  Is this art as fascism?
>Am  I alone in my response to this work ?
>Frank Shifreen
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>To: "empyre" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
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>Subject: [-empyre-] Networked Performance
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>"Goedel + Understanding" 2001-2002  Germany
>http://www.khm.de/%7Emarcello/html/Performances/goedel/goedel1_small.html
>Performances with  Traffic Cameras in K-ln Germany
>

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